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No, because we’re not part of the Navy, we’re part of the Department of the Navy, there’s a subtle difference, & not too many people know the contradistinction. Some people will say they’re the same thing, & I say no, they’re not, for one important reason. When I hear someone say that as a jibe to the Marines, I respond with, “Who is in charge of the Navy?” and they being in the Navy will usually respond with, the CNO or Chief of Naval Operations, who is an Admiral or 4-star flag officer. Here is the Seal of the Navy.
Then I ask them, who is in charge of the Marine Corps, the correct answer being the CMC or Commandant of the Marine Corps who is a General or 4-star flag officer, same rank as the Admiral who is the CNO, which means he is of commensurate rank. Here is the Seal of the Marine Corps.
Now here’s where it becomes interesting because then the next question I ask them is “Who is in charge of the Department of the Navy?” to which they usually don’t have the answer, so I’ll reply with the SecNav or Secretary of the Navy which is a Cabinet-Level Position within the president’s administration just like the Secretary of the Army or Secretary of the Air Force. But if they do have the correct answer, I’ll reply with, “Are the same person, or to be more clear, is the CNO the same person as the SecNav, which no they are not, because one is a military position held by a ranking officer, and the other is a civilian cabinet-level position held by an appointee. Here is the seal of the Department of the Navy.
Notice they are all different.
So while the Navy is part of the Department of the Navy, and the Marine Corps is part of the Department of the Navy, they are not the same thing, think of them like two fingers on the same hand. Both the CNO & the CMC report to the SecNav, the CMC does not report to the CNO so the chain of command is clear.
Telling the last part of this I use the forefinger for the Marine Corps & the middle finger for the Navy for the end of the joke which is FTN or F The Navy, which is my way of getting back at squids who used to like to needle us jarheads with that question.
One more little note, purely my observation and I’m just throwing this out there. If your a God fearing man or woman, you’ve most likely heard of the Holy Trinity.
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (from Latin trinitas “triad”, from trinus “threefold”) defines God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; “one God in three persons”. The three persons are distinct, yet are one “substance, essence or nature”. In this context, a “nature” is what one is, while a “person” is who one is.
Now go look at the logos up top on the Department of the Navy web site. OOH RAH!!!!
Sitting here in central Connecticut as the rains have moved in. The Mid-Atlantic and Northeast U.S. have been quite dry for some time. Our first five days of travel, MD, PA, VT, NH and CT were warm sun lit days. Now we are in place at our son’s home in Tolland, CT and it looks like no sun for anyone on the East coast for the next five days. Along with no sun, lots of rain and perhaps a Hurricane a pending Air Force vs. Navy football game in Annapolis might be an aquatic adventure.
Tropical storm Joaquim is down in the South Atlantic and a possible track along the East Coast could make attending the game a miserable experience. Things have been relatively quiet for the Atlantic Hurricane season the past few years. No one is complaining about the lack of activity over the past few years. Me being a former weather person back in my military days, tend to follow and try predicting tracks of storms as a hobby. Often in the past we have run a family betting pool, big stakes by the way. Sometimes we’d bet buck, perhaps a bottle of wine, especially if the girls are smitten with the competitiveness. I’m always promoting that family zealous atmosphere.
Looking back to our five day adventure, Burlington, VT and the Courtyard Burlington Harbor hotel was a grand experience. Our water view and the setting sun over the lake descending into the Adirondack mountains of New York were spectacular. Lunch at Sweetwaters American Bistro was an experience not forgotten. The sheer volume of Food was eye bulging and very well prepared. Collectively we had Ahi Tuna, Bean Burgers and a Bean Burger salad. A spicy Chicken Taco was our appetizer which could have fed a small army. This restaurant was located in the Church Street Marketplace. Street vendors, Stores of every description as well as performers and musicians abound in this area. We walked downhill to get to Church St. After the meal we were heading back to the Champlain campus for our tour. This trip would be all up hill, I knew my recently repaired knee would not make the climb. Davids kindness prevailed for an old man and I had my first Uber ride.
Sunday morning saw us in Winooski for breakfast with David. Our meal here was consumed in Sneakers Bistro. Volume and great food were once again the norm. After a photo of David and yours truly in front of a Tatoo Parlor, we would drive the well fed college student back to campus and begin our circuitous back roads route to our next stop, Brattleboro, VT.